When you have an inconsistent sidearm, you need reliable turnover discs at varying speeds. I found the Tursas a few months ago and have come to rely on it for shots that require a specific line through the woods that starts straight and bends right. I can throw this thing on a slight anhyser at about 60% power and have it glide right for about 270 - 280 feet, which is exactly the line I need to hit for a couple of woods holes at my local courses. This is a great beginner disc and also good to learn hyzer flip throws. I can hyzer flip this disc and it will go well past the 300 foot mark on a pretty straight line and not fade out much. Great woods disc, but don't throw it in the wind..